Thursday, August 15, 2013


15 Aug 2013
Kandahar, Afghanistan

The Cut at Farmer's Cay, Exumas - 2006

We made a blog entry early in 2012 regarding boat shopping.  Things have changed a little and we felt this topic could use an update.  

One of the things that makes boat shopping so difficult is the variables involved.  Even in our case, where we knew that we wanted a Beneteau, and we thought we knew we wanted a 50 foot boat, it is still difficult.  As it turns out, we decided to consider models other than the Beneteau 50.  There are different models Oceanis 46, Oceanis 461, First 47.7, Oceanis 473, Oceanis 49, Oceanis 50, etc.  Of course, each has its own unique features, layouts, interiors, ect.

Then, you start looking at the equipment that is on board vs. what you want/need.  Updated electronics, chartplotter, AIS, EPIRB, make of engine, horsepower of said engine, air conditioning, watermaker, generator, bowthruster, bimini, dodger, shoal draft vs. deep draft, classic main vs. a furling main, blue hull vs. white hull, teak foredecks vs. fiberglass, solar panels, wind generator, etc., etc., etc. 

Then, you can start comparing condition: Bristol (excellent), very good, above average, average, below average. 

As you can see it can become a nightmare to analyze.  Dahleen can tell you that I am analytical by nature….she really thinks I am analytical.  After deciding we were buying a Beneteau 46 to 50 footer, the first thing we tried to do is make a list of what we HAD to have in a cruising yacht….keeping in mind that it was going to be our home for the next 10 years or so (good Lord willing).  Here’s what we came up with:

  • 2 cabins vs. 3 or more
  • classic mainsail vs. furling
  • deeper draft vs. shoal draft
  • Yanmar engine 76 hp min. with low engine hours (less than 1000)
  • air conditioning
  • excellent condition

The above things are the HAD TO HAVE LIST.  Then we went to a NICE TO HAVE LIST:

  • white hull, not blue hull
  • fiberglass foredeck, not teak
  • updated, (newer) sails
  • electric halyard/sheet winch
  • bowthruster, if a 50’ boat
  • 100 hp Yanmar, if a 50’ boat
  • updated, (newer) electronics


  • generator
  • watermaker
  • solar panels
  • wind generator
  • single-side-band radio
  • AIS
  • ……..and probably some things I have forgotten to list

(note: one of the reasons that a generator, a watermaker, and a updated chartplotter were on the nice to have list is we took the ones off of our other boat that I had installed new.)

Once we made the above lists it became apparent that we were not going to find a Beneteau 50 that met all of our MUST HAVES.  Over the period of 2.5 years of searching there have been two, that’s right, two boats that had what we wanted.  One was in our price range, but in Spain (when we were in the US…before all of our recent trips to Spain) and it only stayed on the market about 2 weeks.  The other was way out of our price range and stayed on the market for over 2 years before the owners gave up and took it off.

After eliminating the B-50 from our shopping list, we decided on the B-461.  The three choices were the 461, the 473, and the First 47.7.  We really wanted to stay with the Bruce Farr designed boat (like the B-50) so that eliminated the Group Finot designed B-473. 

What to do, what to do?  B-461 or First 47.7 ?   Boat buying is a series of compromises unless you have unlimited money and can design and build your own boat.  The 47.7 would sail faster than the 461, had a beefier winches & rigging system, but ergonomically and esthetically the 461 suited us better.  Since we are going to be cruisers instead of racers, we decided that ergonomics wins out.  Remember, boat buying is compromising….we are sacrificing a little on the performance side while sailing, for better functionality and comfort while anchored.  Let’s face it, we will be anchored much, much more than we will be sailing; just like most people spend more time in their house than they do their car. 

What turned the tables?  Specifically, we didn’t like the huge wheel at the helm blocking access to the rear, the traveler so far aft, no sugar scoop for convenient boarding at the rear, and the Pullman berth in the front cabin.  Our previous boat had the Pullman and we weren’t as comfortable as we would have like to have been.  The centerline Queen berth in the Master cabin of the 461 will be much more to our liking.  Again, buying a boat is a series of compromises…..and everyone has a different opinion regarding what is important.  In the end, it is important that we focus on what we consider important to us when selecting our next home.  

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